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i never got any money from you

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ufo might just as well stand for

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unprecedented financial opportunity

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this is the saucer life a podcast in

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which we examine concepts events or

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people orbiting the world of flying

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saucers few preconceptions snark when

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justified no belief no debunking today

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we look at the story of ted owens who

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called himself the pk man for

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psychokinesis well known in

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psychokinesis circles

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but also

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a ufo contactee who talked to the sis

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or space intelligences and today we're

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going to look at his story and he is a

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very different sort of contact d now as

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far as sources for this episode go um

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his books uh two of his books are

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available online that i've found or two

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sized things that we're going to uh

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we're going to use as primary sources

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he's also written about in saga magazine

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which had a lot of ufo content there in

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the 60s and 70s and in 2000

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book the pk man a true story of mind

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over matter about his interactions with

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ted owens

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a strange one folks

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it's a strange one

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i misspoke a bit ago and i'm too lazy to

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go back and re-record that entire

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section jeffrey michelov is a according

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to the bio on the back cover of his book

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was clear it would be very clear by the

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so ted owens little biographical

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information is born in bedford indiana

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in 1920 and according to mishlov's book

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abilities things like that there's one

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scientists about what i was doing to the

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the whole thing but again in owen's

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message he believes or some guidance

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him to write a letter to

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prediction or prognostication he had of

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near future change the north and south

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poles as the message came to me i

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affect those two places and change the

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he found out that he had been dealing

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with ufo intelligences not some

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intelligent essence behind the nature of

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weather because on july 8th he found a

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manned by argentinian personnel

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and because electromagnetic

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charge was involved owens interpreted

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this

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as

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confirmation of his poll magnetic

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condition prediction

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so the connection with this event and

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ufos connecting to the message he

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received about the polls sort of puts

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the pieces together in his mind that

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he's communicating with ufo beings then

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owens sees another article this is in

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october

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actually

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1964 the year before that the headline

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said u.s waging weather war moscow says

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and it's basically a sort of nothing

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story about a soviet colonel

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in moscow claiming that the united

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states was using weather control

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technology to

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send hurricanes toward cuba

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and

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that was the hurricane that i was moving

305
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with my maps and and my and my mind so

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he realizes that that he he was possibly

307
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responsible for this but he thinks the

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russians are being silly because

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those hurricanes while they did affect

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cuba also affected the united states so

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why would the united states have

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anything to gain from such an operation

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because the the russians have thought

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about it they would have known

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it was actually an individual like well

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like ted owens and the owens then in

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july of 1965 writes to george clark his

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pal at the c.i.a again

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dear george one my little friends say

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they will appear over one of our major

321
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u.s cities soon in one of their flying

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machines they won't name the city for

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security reasons theirs

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two they also state they will begin an

325
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attack campaign on the us with lightning

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lightning attacks everywhere there will

327
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be an unusual abundance of lightning

328
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bolts striking everywhere everything

329
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soon

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the above is an effort to prove that pk

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man is the representative and that they

332
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i hope i'm not alone out there and

333
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wishing that pk man had

334
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dressed up as a superhero with a giant

335
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pk

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on his chest or something like that

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of course uh owen says he has proof for

338
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this he outlines a number of lightning

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strikes on people and facilities

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throughout the rest of the summer three

341
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marines were killed by lightning in

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vietnam

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two golfers were killed by lightning in

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louisville georgia auburn california a

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bolt of lightning struck and exploded a

346
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stock pile of dynamite

347
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killing three and injuring one

348
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there are other examples a polish

349
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airliner was struck by a bolt of

350
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lightning over belgium and exploded all

351
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of which proved that not only that his

352
00:13:53,670 --> 00:13:51,279
predictions were were true but that this

353
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this was the actions of the sis he said

354
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the sis have been busy and one thing

355
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that is

356
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interesting about the ted owens case is

357
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that

358
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the sis the space intelligences are

359
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doing things like

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warning america with lightning strikes

361
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is not to get america necessarily to

362
00:14:19,189 --> 00:14:16,480
change this policy or that policy or

363
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this or that way of life it's to accept

364
00:14:22,069 --> 00:14:21,279
that ted owens is their representative

365
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these

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demonstrations are

367
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to

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sort of bolster

369
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owens's position

370
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vis-a-vis the government

371
00:14:36,470 --> 00:14:33,120
now in addition to the lightning strikes

372
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he also had evidence for the ufo or the

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sis making an appearance over u.s city

374
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july 31st there were a number of

375
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sightings around the country a newspaper

376
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said the most numerous since

377
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1957.

378
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some there were some in washington d.c

379
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texas new mexico oklahoma kansas

380
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nebraska wyoming the dakotas a whole lot

381
00:15:04,710 --> 00:15:01,440
of ufo appearances some of them over u.s

382
00:15:07,030 --> 00:15:04,720
cities like owens had predicted so in

383
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light of this evidence provided by the

384
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saucer intelligence to in owens's words

385
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confirmed that i was their

386
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representative and in communication with

387
00:15:19,269 --> 00:15:16,480
them on august 6th of 1965 he writes to

388
00:15:21,509 --> 00:15:19,279
george clarke again plus he says my

389
00:15:24,389 --> 00:15:21,519
other contacts scientists government

390
00:15:26,389 --> 00:15:24,399
agencies etc he doesn't detail who all

391
00:15:28,069 --> 00:15:26,399
of those are

392
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now for your amusement and because

393
00:15:31,990 --> 00:15:29,680
you've been so good to listen to me for

394
00:15:33,990 --> 00:15:32,000
so long i will let you in on something

395
00:15:36,470 --> 00:15:34,000
i'm calling in fleets of ufos here to

396
00:15:38,470 --> 00:15:36,480
philadelphia from everywhere trouble is

397
00:15:40,470 --> 00:15:38,480
i do not know what they can do to prove

398
00:15:42,389 --> 00:15:40,480
to these people here that i'm for real

399
00:15:44,389 --> 00:15:42,399
but i will think of something

400
00:15:46,150 --> 00:15:44,399
i believe they're here already because i

401
00:15:48,069 --> 00:15:46,160
sent for them this afternoon with all

402
00:15:50,069 --> 00:15:48,079
that power whatever kind it is that they

403
00:15:51,350 --> 00:15:50,079
have and it seems to be miraculous

404
00:15:53,269 --> 00:15:51,360
judging from what they've accomplished

405
00:15:54,470 --> 00:15:53,279
this past year they should do something

406
00:15:56,470 --> 00:15:54,480
startling

407
00:15:58,310 --> 00:15:56,480
i'm trying to convey the idea to them of

408
00:16:00,389 --> 00:15:58,320
coming right down over the city and

409
00:16:02,230 --> 00:16:00,399
hovering but they give me the idea back

410
00:16:03,910 --> 00:16:02,240
that we might have some kind of raise

411
00:16:05,590 --> 00:16:03,920
they have or whatever it is they have

412
00:16:07,670 --> 00:16:05,600
and hurt them or something so that

413
00:16:09,509 --> 00:16:07,680
they're resistant to do this so i am

414
00:16:11,269 --> 00:16:09,519
trying to tell them we haven't any such

415
00:16:14,949 --> 00:16:11,279
thing and that it's safe for them to

416
00:16:19,749 --> 00:16:17,670
owens then produces more reports of ufo

417
00:16:22,870 --> 00:16:19,759
sightings of which there were many in

418
00:16:25,590 --> 00:16:22,880
the mid-1960s to bolster his claim that

419
00:16:28,550 --> 00:16:25,600
the sis are listening to him

420
00:16:30,949 --> 00:16:28,560
some of his claims are

421
00:16:33,430 --> 00:16:30,959
stranger than others you might remember

422
00:16:35,590 --> 00:16:33,440
a long time ago we talked about a a

423
00:16:37,030 --> 00:16:35,600
story that took place in monroe michigan

424
00:16:38,870 --> 00:16:37,040
the the monroe

425
00:16:40,470 --> 00:16:38,880
monster the monroe county monster sort

426
00:16:43,749 --> 00:16:40,480
of black furry creature that reached

427
00:16:45,990 --> 00:16:43,759
through a car window and mauled a a

428
00:16:47,189 --> 00:16:46,000
young woman named christine

429
00:16:48,710 --> 00:16:47,199
acker

430
00:16:49,670 --> 00:16:48,720
who was with her mother

431
00:16:54,550 --> 00:16:49,680
and

432
00:16:58,230 --> 00:16:54,560
letter into the editor of the

433
00:17:01,509 --> 00:16:58,240
philadelphia daily news in august of 65

434
00:17:03,189 --> 00:17:01,519
where he he responds to this story which

435
00:17:05,990 --> 00:17:03,199
although taking place in michigan had

436
00:17:08,390 --> 00:17:06,000
been syndicated or distributed by upi

437
00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:08,400
and so it appeared in the philadelphia

438
00:17:12,949 --> 00:17:10,240
daily news

439
00:17:16,150 --> 00:17:12,959
dear sir in your story blonde gets black

440
00:17:17,590 --> 00:17:16,160
eye as thing attacks carr in your 8 1765

441
00:17:19,270 --> 00:17:17,600
paper the mother of the girl who was

442
00:17:20,949 --> 00:17:19,280
attacked and they were both in the car

443
00:17:22,870 --> 00:17:20,959
during the attack by the seven foot four

444
00:17:25,350 --> 00:17:22,880
hundred pound monster has the name of

445
00:17:27,750 --> 00:17:25,360
rose owens the girl who was attacked was

446
00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:27,760
then named owens before her marriage

447
00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:29,440
a strange coincidence

448
00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:31,120
the wednesday previously i appeared on

449
00:17:35,830 --> 00:17:33,520
the jack mckinnia show stationed wcau

450
00:17:37,510 --> 00:17:35,840
here in philadelphia and mr mckinney was

451
00:17:39,270 --> 00:17:37,520
kind enough to read a three-page letter

452
00:17:41,350 --> 00:17:39,280
or message given to me by the ufo

453
00:17:42,310 --> 00:17:41,360
intelligences to pass on to the american

454
00:17:43,430 --> 00:17:42,320
people

455
00:17:45,350 --> 00:17:43,440
so what

456
00:17:49,750 --> 00:17:45,360
what's the coincidence

457
00:17:53,750 --> 00:17:51,669
there's a lot of weird stuff in this

458
00:17:56,230 --> 00:17:53,760
story but i think this letter to the

459
00:17:58,230 --> 00:17:56,240
editor sort of takes the cake for the

460
00:18:01,350 --> 00:17:58,240
sort of head scratchingist

461
00:18:03,669 --> 00:18:01,360
thing owens is not that uncommon a name

462
00:18:06,070 --> 00:18:03,679
and i don't believe that owens was

463
00:18:07,909 --> 00:18:06,080
talking about in his radio appearance or

464
00:18:11,029 --> 00:18:07,919
in his letter

465
00:18:12,870 --> 00:18:11,039
about a monster that wasn't really

466
00:18:15,029 --> 00:18:12,880
connected to a ufo

467
00:18:17,590 --> 00:18:15,039
attacking a girl in michigan it just

468
00:18:19,990 --> 00:18:17,600
seems very very strange but business was

469
00:18:24,150 --> 00:18:20,000
about to pick up and in october october

470
00:18:25,990 --> 00:18:24,160
26 1965 the sis communicated with owens

471
00:18:30,070 --> 00:18:26,000
that he needed to send a telegram to

472
00:18:33,110 --> 00:18:30,080
george clark at the cia immediately

473
00:18:35,669 --> 00:18:33,120
a rare warning sis and fury see copy

474
00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:35,679
letter nasa before gemini 6 shot keep in

475
00:18:39,669 --> 00:18:37,840
mind vanishing rocket unless u.s

476
00:18:41,590 --> 00:18:39,679
government complies with s-i wishes they

477
00:18:43,590 --> 00:18:41,600
will unleash terrible u.s catastrophe

478
00:18:46,310 --> 00:18:43,600
within 10 days don't know what they have

479
00:18:49,190 --> 00:18:46,320
in mind but let the government be warned

480
00:18:50,789 --> 00:18:49,200
pk man

481
00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:50,799
a few weeks later

482
00:18:57,190 --> 00:18:53,760
power blackout that covered seven states

483
00:18:58,310 --> 00:18:57,200
the massive 1965 east coast

484
00:18:59,990 --> 00:18:58,320
blackout

485
00:19:02,310 --> 00:19:00,000
that was

486
00:19:04,950 --> 00:19:02,320
owens believed the

487
00:19:06,070 --> 00:19:04,960
danger the warning the catastrophe

488
00:19:07,270 --> 00:19:06,080
that

489
00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:07,280
um

490
00:19:12,630 --> 00:19:09,520
that the aliens warned over the the

491
00:19:15,510 --> 00:19:12,640
space intelligence is warned of it was

492
00:19:18,630 --> 00:19:15,520
um a little more than 10 days so the

493
00:19:20,950 --> 00:19:18,640
telegram said within 10 days then owen

494
00:19:24,070 --> 00:19:20,960
says what followed on november 10th

495
00:19:26,630 --> 00:19:24,080
about 10 days later no not about mr

496
00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:26,640
owens you said within so yes it's a

497
00:19:31,510 --> 00:19:29,679
small thing but a little inconsistency

498
00:19:33,110 --> 00:19:31,520
there but

499
00:19:36,070 --> 00:19:33,120
i mean

500
00:19:38,150 --> 00:19:36,080
i can see why people might

501
00:19:40,390 --> 00:19:38,160
see this as as being connected and as

502
00:19:43,270 --> 00:19:40,400
we're going to see there are people who

503
00:19:45,750 --> 00:19:43,280
are very serious you know

504
00:19:50,230 --> 00:19:45,760
researchers in psychic abilities who are

505
00:19:53,029 --> 00:19:50,240
going to take a great interest in owen's

506
00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:53,039
abilities and activities at this point

507
00:19:56,950 --> 00:19:54,960
owens explains that there's clearly a

508
00:19:58,950 --> 00:19:56,960
pattern that's taking place the sis

509
00:20:01,110 --> 00:19:58,960
communicate with him he in turn

510
00:20:04,230 --> 00:20:01,120
communicates with the government and

511
00:20:06,789 --> 00:20:04,240
then the si action follows he says quote

512
00:20:08,630 --> 00:20:06,799
ingenious plan on the part of the sis to

513
00:20:10,470 --> 00:20:08,640
prove their reality their connection

514
00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:10,480
with me their human agent and our

515
00:20:16,390 --> 00:20:12,880
ability to communicate with each other

516
00:20:20,870 --> 00:20:16,400
end quote so this is again

517
00:20:22,549 --> 00:20:20,880
mostly about proving that owens is the

518
00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:22,559
conduit between

519
00:20:26,710 --> 00:20:23,760
humanity

520
00:20:30,070 --> 00:20:26,720
and uh and the aliens as another example

521
00:20:33,029 --> 00:20:30,080
of this he gives us a june 1st 1966

522
00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:33,039
letter he sent to guess who george clark

523
00:20:37,750 --> 00:20:35,440
of the cia

524
00:20:40,070 --> 00:20:37,760
dear george the sis today gave me some

525
00:20:41,510 --> 00:20:40,080
interesting information to pass on seems

526
00:20:43,190 --> 00:20:41,520
that when they flew near some police

527
00:20:44,950 --> 00:20:43,200
cars in a recent sighting the stupid

528
00:20:47,110 --> 00:20:44,960
policemen actually fired guns at their

529
00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:47,120
craft this was not made public and may

530
00:20:50,789 --> 00:20:48,799
even be kept a secret by the officers

531
00:20:52,549 --> 00:20:50,799
who committed this colossal blunder

532
00:20:53,990 --> 00:20:52,559
however the sis warned that if they

533
00:20:56,070 --> 00:20:54,000
approach in friendly fashion in the

534
00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:56,080
future and are fired upon or attacked in

535
00:21:01,270 --> 00:20:58,159
an unfriendly manner the police will be

536
00:21:03,730 --> 00:21:01,280
minus one car and officers the sis will

537
00:21:07,029 --> 00:21:03,740
eliminate it as a lesson to humans

538
00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:08,470
that sounds pretty intimidating and

539
00:21:12,470 --> 00:21:11,039
owens follows us up with evidence that

540
00:21:14,310 --> 00:21:12,480
this happened

541
00:21:18,870 --> 00:21:14,320
the headline this is from the akron

542
00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:18,880
beacon journal in october 1 1966

543
00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:21,679
i love this headline flying saucer named

544
00:21:27,350 --> 00:21:24,960
floyd is man's eternal tormentor and

545
00:21:31,029 --> 00:21:27,360
it's about a former

546
00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:31,039
portage county ohio deputy named dale

547
00:21:33,430 --> 00:21:32,000
spur

548
00:21:35,830 --> 00:21:33,440
who

549
00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:35,840
had a ufo encounter

550
00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:40,080
and um chased a ufo 86 miles

551
00:21:44,789 --> 00:21:41,600
and

552
00:21:46,390 --> 00:21:44,799
eventually because of his psychological

553
00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:46,400
damage from this

554
00:21:50,070 --> 00:21:48,559
lost his marriage his health is bad he's

555
00:21:52,549 --> 00:21:50,080
got no money

556
00:21:54,470 --> 00:21:52,559
and he blames the flying saucer for

557
00:21:56,789 --> 00:21:54,480
everything

558
00:22:00,149 --> 00:21:56,799
the story does not explain

559
00:22:01,190 --> 00:22:00,159
why the flying saucer is named

560
00:22:02,950 --> 00:22:01,200
floyd

561
00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:02,960
it says now spar

562
00:22:07,350 --> 00:22:05,280
hides in solon ohio a fugitive from a

563
00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:07,360
flying saucer named floyd he cannot

564
00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:09,360
escape the strange craft it remains with

565
00:22:13,669 --> 00:22:11,760
him locked in his mind reappearing in

566
00:22:17,190 --> 00:22:13,679
nightly sweating dreams that are a

567
00:22:19,909 --> 00:22:17,200
bizarre mixture of fantasy and reality

568
00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:19,919
it's actually a fascinating encounter

569
00:22:24,630 --> 00:22:22,400
story that we'll probably cover maybe

570
00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:24,640
next week on our sort of feedback

571
00:22:28,710 --> 00:22:26,880
episode about this it's it's an

572
00:22:31,590 --> 00:22:28,720
interesting interesting article in

573
00:22:33,830 --> 00:22:31,600
general now owens's prediction said that

574
00:22:36,070 --> 00:22:33,840
that the the police would shoot at the

575
00:22:37,110 --> 00:22:36,080
saucer and they were ordered to shoot at

576
00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:37,120
it but

577
00:22:42,230 --> 00:22:38,880
unless i'm missing it as i read the

578
00:22:44,950 --> 00:22:42,240
articles reprinted here in owens's book

579
00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:44,960
nobody actually shoots it although in

580
00:22:50,950 --> 00:22:48,880
his own commentary afterwards owens asks

581
00:22:52,230 --> 00:22:50,960
well reader i wonder which one shot at

582
00:22:54,630 --> 00:22:52,240
the saucer

583
00:22:56,390 --> 00:22:54,640
that was a mistake there is now no way

584
00:22:58,630 --> 00:22:56,400
no human way that we can injure or

585
00:23:01,350 --> 00:22:58,640
destroy the saucers

586
00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:01,360
however the sis fear our attacks so he's

587
00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:04,880
assuming since one of these

588
00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:07,679
sheriff's deputies lives was ruined and

589
00:23:14,149 --> 00:23:10,880
is no longer on the force that he must

590
00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:14,159
have shot at the ufo because that's what

591
00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:16,960
the sis predicted would happen

592
00:23:20,230 --> 00:23:18,799
it's a roundabout bit of logic that we

593
00:23:22,950 --> 00:23:20,240
can't really

594
00:23:25,909 --> 00:23:22,960
square one way or the other now earlier

595
00:23:29,029 --> 00:23:25,919
in april 1966 there had been another

596
00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:29,039
big prediction of a massive ufo sighting

597
00:23:35,029 --> 00:23:32,880
in once again a letter to george clark

598
00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:35,039
dear george something momentous is in

599
00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:37,360
the wind with the sis so big that

600
00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:38,880
they're actually going to attempt to

601
00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:40,320
bring one of their craft down into

602
00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:42,480
philadelphia to contact me one of the

603
00:23:45,510 --> 00:23:43,919
big ones that is

604
00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:45,520
for some reason i've been trying to get

605
00:23:48,870 --> 00:23:47,600
them to do just that but not until today

606
00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:48,880
did they signal that they were going to

607
00:23:53,590 --> 00:23:51,039
come into philadelphia into center city

608
00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:53,600
to try a contact with me that is how

609
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:54,960
important it is to them to make a

610
00:23:59,190 --> 00:23:56,640
contact physically with their human

611
00:24:00,710 --> 00:23:59,200
contacts i understand from thinking with

612
00:24:03,269 --> 00:24:00,720
them that ordinarily they hate to go

613
00:24:05,110 --> 00:24:03,279
into a city down around buildings etc

614
00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:05,120
but frustrated over the us government's

615
00:24:08,950 --> 00:24:06,480
refusal to help me meet them in the

616
00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:08,960
michigan woods or an isolated european

617
00:24:12,789 --> 00:24:10,720
castle they will make an effort to find

618
00:24:14,230 --> 00:24:12,799
me here they know where i am at all

619
00:24:16,630 --> 00:24:14,240
times but reaching me with one of their

620
00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:16,640
large craft that's something else so

621
00:24:20,710 --> 00:24:18,400
when you read about the ufo seen in

622
00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:20,720
philadelphia in the days or weeks ahead

623
00:24:30,149 --> 00:24:29,190
and as you might expect ufos appeared

624
00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:30,159
over

625
00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:32,480
philadelphia now

626
00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:34,559
it seems like this is going on and on

627
00:24:38,870 --> 00:24:36,480
and on i understand that and i am i'm

628
00:24:40,950 --> 00:24:38,880
not detailing every

629
00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:40,960
sort of piece of of evidence for his

630
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:43,600
predictions or the si's predictions that

631
00:24:48,549 --> 00:24:45,360
uh that that owens

632
00:24:52,549 --> 00:24:48,559
is is putting in this book but as we get

633
00:24:54,390 --> 00:24:52,559
into 1966 and 1967 things are going to

634
00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:54,400
begin to heat up a little bit because

635
00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:55,840
the sis

636
00:24:59,669 --> 00:24:56,640
are

637
00:25:03,669 --> 00:24:59,679
beginning to lose their patience this is

638
00:25:05,590 --> 00:25:03,679
a july 11 1966 letter to the cia's

639
00:25:07,909 --> 00:25:05,600
george clarke

640
00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:07,919
the sis are near this area and are about

641
00:25:11,269 --> 00:25:09,360
to make a move that will bring them to

642
00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:11,279
public notice again just in case people

643
00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:13,520
are forgetting them something startling

644
00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:14,960
they are getting restless because i'm

645
00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:16,480
not getting anywhere with the us

646
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:18,799
government

647
00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:20,320
some more demonstrations are going to

648
00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:22,480
come and this time they're going to be a

649
00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:23,840
little bit more

650
00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:28,559
threatening

651
00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:32,240
june 21st owens writes to jack mckinney

652
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:36,720
who was a host at the radio station wcaw

653
00:25:40,950 --> 00:25:38,880
in philadelphia

654
00:25:42,470 --> 00:25:40,960
dear jack i've been fighting off writing

655
00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:42,480
this to you for several weeks but when

656
00:25:47,029 --> 00:25:45,360
the sis put on the pressure you're right

657
00:25:49,669 --> 00:25:47,039
what they want me to do is to give a

658
00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:49,679
practical demonstration at wcau of how

659
00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:52,480
pk or psi power works at cape kennedy

660
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:54,559
and other places this will involve

661
00:25:59,110 --> 00:25:57,279
making a pk map my usual procedure the

662
00:26:00,549 --> 00:25:59,120
sis use this as a training procedure

663
00:26:02,549 --> 00:26:00,559
with me so that i can understand what

664
00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:02,559
they are doing i will send you a copy

665
00:26:07,269 --> 00:26:04,799
and keep a copy of this map then slowly

666
00:26:09,909 --> 00:26:07,279
the power will build up at wcau as the

667
00:26:12,789 --> 00:26:09,919
pk grows there and in the days weeks and

668
00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:12,799
months ahead this is what to expect

669
00:26:17,110 --> 00:26:15,360
high degree of human error electrical

670
00:26:19,269 --> 00:26:17,120
disturbances and breakdowns

671
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:19,279
electromagnetic disturbances

672
00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:22,320
fires poltergeist phenomena of all types

673
00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:24,480
lightning hits employees out with the

674
00:26:29,669 --> 00:26:27,840
flu markedly unreasonable human behavior

675
00:26:31,990 --> 00:26:29,679
mechanical malfunction

676
00:26:32,950 --> 00:26:32,000
weird and unusual accidents of minor

677
00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:32,960
nature

678
00:26:37,669 --> 00:26:35,520
the sis are keeping in mind that wcau

679
00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:37,679
and jack mckinney are their friends so

680
00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:39,440
don't worry about this being devastating

681
00:26:43,830 --> 00:26:41,520
as their work is at other places they

682
00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:43,840
just want to show wcau what it is really

683
00:26:47,669 --> 00:26:45,600
like to be within the range of the sis

684
00:26:48,950 --> 00:26:47,679
for a period of time with the sis

685
00:26:50,950 --> 00:26:48,960
zeroing in

686
00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:50,960
let me spell it out they're punishing

687
00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:52,559
the air force currently with blood in

688
00:26:57,669 --> 00:26:54,799
their eye this is not the same they are

689
00:27:01,110 --> 00:26:57,679
giving wcau a practical demonstration in

690
00:27:02,470 --> 00:27:01,120
psi pk with friendship in their eye

691
00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:02,480
sincerely

692
00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:09,669
some of those things sound fairly scary

693
00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:12,400
um fires poltergeist activity uh

694
00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:14,640
employees out with the flu the ones that

695
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:16,640
are the vague ones are the ones that

696
00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:19,440
bother me the most markedly unreasonable

697
00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:22,240
human behavior and weird and unusual

698
00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:25,360
accidents of minor nature and he he does

699
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:27,360
make clear doesn't he that this is the

700
00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:29,200
the sis are not being mean they're just

701
00:27:31,269 --> 00:27:30,240
gonna

702
00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:31,279
i don't know

703
00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:33,520
slap you around a little bit to get your

704
00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:34,880
attention not like they're doing to the

705
00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:36,799
air force where bad things are

706
00:27:41,350 --> 00:27:39,600
apparently happening so there was

707
00:27:43,510 --> 00:27:41,360
shortly after this

708
00:27:44,710 --> 00:27:43,520
a lightning strike that

709
00:27:52,230 --> 00:27:44,720
took out

710
00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:52,240
you know owens took credit for that he

711
00:27:57,470 --> 00:27:55,120
also takes credit for a variety of

712
00:28:00,549 --> 00:27:57,480
blackouts that are happening throughout

713
00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:00,559
1966 up and down

714
00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:03,840
the east coast and into uh into

715
00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:06,000
the american midwest

716
00:28:10,070 --> 00:28:07,440
so

717
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:10,080
this idea of demonstrating

718
00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:12,480
his ability to communicate and to sort

719
00:28:15,750 --> 00:28:13,120
of

720
00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:15,760
order the sis around or to request them

721
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:16,960
to do things

722
00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:21,200
sort of crossed over in 1967

723
00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:24,240
with some well-known members of the ufo

724
00:28:27,510 --> 00:28:25,360
scene

725
00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:27,520
jim mosley was

726
00:28:30,789 --> 00:28:28,480
putting

727
00:28:34,389 --> 00:28:30,799
a convention on in new york city it was

728
00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:34,399
a big convention and owens was going to

729
00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:37,919
try and do something kind of spectacular

730
00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:41,279
apparently in early 1967 timothy green

731
00:28:45,190 --> 00:28:42,399
beckley

732
00:28:47,990 --> 00:28:45,200
had written to

733
00:28:50,549 --> 00:28:48,000
ted owens and asked that there be

734
00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:50,559
some good weather for the

735
00:28:55,350 --> 00:28:52,960
massive ufo convention that was going to

736
00:28:58,950 --> 00:28:55,360
be happening in new york later

737
00:29:01,590 --> 00:28:58,960
that year i suspect this letter to owens

738
00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:01,600
was written in a kind of tongue-in-cheek

739
00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:05,600
way but on february 19th 1967

740
00:29:10,070 --> 00:29:08,960
owens replied to beckley

741
00:29:12,389 --> 00:29:10,080
dear tim

742
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:12,399
you requested i asked the sis to furnish

743
00:29:16,950 --> 00:29:14,240
good weather for your ufo meeting in new

744
00:29:18,389 --> 00:29:16,960
york this i cannot do for the sis have

745
00:29:20,630 --> 00:29:18,399
the u.s set up for rain and

746
00:29:22,389 --> 00:29:20,640
precipitation to eliminate the drought

747
00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:22,399
and this we would not want to tamper

748
00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:25,360
with but this we can do i will contact

749
00:29:29,430 --> 00:29:27,600
the sis immediately and ask them to

750
00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:29,440
appear strongly in the new york area

751
00:29:33,669 --> 00:29:31,120
through the ufo meeting to draw

752
00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:33,679
attention to new york area and to them

753
00:29:37,669 --> 00:29:35,520
i'll stress as best i can to them that

754
00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:37,679
they do something unusually spectacular

755
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:39,760
at the time of the ufo meeting like

756
00:29:43,750 --> 00:29:41,679
another total new york blackout or

757
00:29:45,430 --> 00:29:43,760
something of that scope i trust this

758
00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:45,440
will meet your group's approval one

759
00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:47,520
important thing and please let me know

760
00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:49,679
if i bring the above about which will

761
00:29:58,070 --> 00:29:51,840
certainly help your ufo meeting will you

762
00:30:02,630 --> 00:30:00,230
yeah well do something to show off the

763
00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:02,640
si's abilities for your ufo convention

764
00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:05,200
like maybe a massive blackout

765
00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:07,600
there the matter seemed to sit for a

766
00:30:16,230 --> 00:30:09,760
while until

767
00:30:18,389 --> 00:30:16,240
may of 1967 when mosley wrote to owens

768
00:30:19,909 --> 00:30:18,399
dear mr owens i've just finished fixing

769
00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:19,919
up your ad for our forthcoming summer

770
00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:21,360
issue of saucer news we were also

771
00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:22,799
including your letter to the editor

772
00:30:26,149 --> 00:30:24,880
about possible sensational activity by

773
00:30:27,350 --> 00:30:26,159
the space people just before the

774
00:30:28,710 --> 00:30:27,360
convention

775
00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:28,720
yes that would be wonderful if you can

776
00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:30,960
arrange it let's see if you can

777
00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:36,230
and owens responds

778
00:30:40,149 --> 00:30:38,159
dear jim thanks for the card i'm

779
00:30:41,830 --> 00:30:40,159
contacting the sis immediately to do

780
00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:41,840
something sensational in their area of

781
00:30:45,909 --> 00:30:43,520
activity to point up the flying saucer

782
00:30:47,029 --> 00:30:45,919
convention and draw interest to it i

783
00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:47,039
will explain to them that this

784
00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:48,640
convention is in their interest and the

785
00:30:51,990 --> 00:30:50,159
people attending it who are sympathetic

786
00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:52,000
to them i'm going to ask them to bring

787
00:30:55,269 --> 00:30:53,679
about another great power blackout or

788
00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:55,279
something on that scale

789
00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:57,039
and if they will not do that then to

790
00:31:01,509 --> 00:30:58,960
appear in great numbers in and about new

791
00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:01,519
york from now until convention time as a

792
00:31:05,350 --> 00:31:03,600
signal that they are here are real and

793
00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:05,360
wish the humans in the u.s to focus

794
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:07,279
their attention on the convention fair

795
00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:09,600
enough my batting average thus far which

796
00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:12,720
mac mckinney states is amazing is 88

797
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:14,640
so i'm not worried that the sis might

798
00:31:16,830 --> 00:31:15,840
not respond

799
00:31:18,389 --> 00:31:16,840
pk

800
00:31:21,269 --> 00:31:18,399
man

801
00:31:22,870 --> 00:31:21,279
mosley replies again and is seemingly

802
00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:22,880
getting a little nervous about what the

803
00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:26,159
pk man might be cooking up

804
00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:28,080
dear ted owens thanks for the letters

805
00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:29,279
it's very interesting how you have

806
00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:30,799
apparently made many of your predictions

807
00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:32,960
come true i would be most sincerely

808
00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:34,480
impressed if you can indeed make

809
00:31:37,669 --> 00:31:36,480
something spectacular happen just before

810
00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:37,679
the convention

811
00:31:41,669 --> 00:31:39,760
let's not have a power failure in nyc

812
00:31:43,830 --> 00:31:41,679
too close to the convention date however

813
00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:43,840
as people might get scared or something

814
00:31:51,669 --> 00:31:49,350
owens says just to make sure there would

815
00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:51,679
be no misunderstanding i wrote back to

816
00:31:58,470 --> 00:31:56,080
jim on may 19th as follows

817
00:32:00,389 --> 00:31:58,480
dear jim i'm asking the sis to deal new

818
00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:00,399
york another power blackout or show

819
00:32:04,149 --> 00:32:02,159
their craft there in a striking way or

820
00:32:06,070 --> 00:32:04,159
do something big and mysterious before

821
00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:06,080
june 22nd new york to help boost

822
00:32:09,990 --> 00:32:08,080
interest in the convention i'm sure you

823
00:32:12,310 --> 00:32:10,000
will get powerful results something

824
00:32:15,340 --> 00:32:12,320
exciting and unusual should affect power

825
00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:15,350
and electricity when it happens pk man

826
00:32:20,789 --> 00:32:17,840
[Music]

827
00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:20,799
and then a few days later there was a

828
00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:22,960
blackout in queens

829
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:24,960
the saint albans section of queens was

830
00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:28,399
blacked out for nearly 90 minutes

831
00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:29,840
owens

832
00:32:34,149 --> 00:32:32,720
sends a telegram or a letter back to jim

833
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:34,159
mosley saying

834
00:32:39,909 --> 00:32:36,720
this seems to be a beginning

835
00:32:41,590 --> 00:32:39,919
and mosley responded

836
00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:41,600
thanks for the letter i'll look forward

837
00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:47,990
mosley doesn't seem to be too awfully

838
00:32:53,909 --> 00:32:51,279
impressed and then on june 5th there's

839
00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:53,919
you know the mass of the largest power

840
00:33:00,070 --> 00:32:57,440
outage of of that time hits

841
00:33:02,310 --> 00:33:00,080
owens sends a telegram to mosley he

842
00:33:04,789 --> 00:33:02,320
specifies after the power came back on

843
00:33:06,149 --> 00:33:04,799
which said the following

844
00:33:08,470 --> 00:33:06,159
you said i'll look forward to the

845
00:33:12,710 --> 00:33:08,480
blackout i gave it to you may i have

846
00:33:15,509 --> 00:33:12,720
confirmation please ted owens

847
00:33:18,789 --> 00:33:15,519
as far as confirmation goes mosley

848
00:33:21,350 --> 00:33:18,799
didn't respond but timothy green beckley

849
00:33:24,750 --> 00:33:21,360
who was the managing editor of saucer

850
00:33:29,269 --> 00:33:24,760
news at the time did respond on june 12

851
00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:29,279
1967 on saucer news letterhead

852
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:31,600
dear ted many thanks for having the sis

853
00:33:34,950 --> 00:33:33,360
come through with that promised blackout

854
00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:34,960
i'm quite certain that this event and

855
00:33:38,470 --> 00:33:36,880
others which they shall perform before

856
00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:38,480
the convention will attract many persons

857
00:33:42,789 --> 00:33:40,240
who otherwise would not have come we're

858
00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:42,799
hoping for a ufo sighting a good one or

859
00:33:45,669 --> 00:33:44,240
landing about three days before the

860
00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:45,679
start of the convention to build press

861
00:33:49,909 --> 00:33:48,240
interest closer to new york the better

862
00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:49,919
i'm sorry jack mckinney wouldn't let jim

863
00:33:53,190 --> 00:33:51,760
mosely john keeler myself mentioned your

864
00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:53,200
prediction on the air on the evening of

865
00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:55,200
the blackout we had hoped to but he

866
00:33:58,789 --> 00:33:57,279
thought we'd best not mention it however

867
00:34:01,909 --> 00:33:58,799
you have been mentioned by name on the

868
00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:01,919
long john show last friday and on wbab

869
00:34:06,070 --> 00:34:04,080
by yours truly the same day we'll listen

870
00:34:07,430 --> 00:34:06,080
to the ed harvey show on the 19th don't

871
00:34:09,190 --> 00:34:07,440
forget to mention the convention if

872
00:34:11,669 --> 00:34:09,200
possible the evening sessions start at

873
00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:11,679
8pm and the afternoon ones at 2pm jim

874
00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:13,040
and i hope you'll be able to make it for

875
00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:15,200
at least the saturday or sunday sessions

876
00:34:19,109 --> 00:34:17,200
dr condon of the university of colorado

877
00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:19,119
is flying in for the event as are other

878
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:20,399
noted officials

879
00:34:23,750 --> 00:34:22,079
probably the best boost for you is the

880
00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:23,760
fact that the summer convention issue of

881
00:34:26,869 --> 00:34:25,200
saucer news contains your letter

882
00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:26,879
predicting such a blackout before it

883
00:34:30,149 --> 00:34:28,720
actually occurred to avoid any

884
00:34:31,990 --> 00:34:30,159
misunderstanding i am writing this

885
00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:32,000
letter on a personal basis and my

886
00:34:36,310 --> 00:34:34,000
opinions do not necessarily agree with

887
00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:36,320
those of the entire staff of saucer news

888
00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:38,320
with kindest regards timothy green

889
00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:41,520
beckley managing editor

890
00:34:46,389 --> 00:34:43,679
owens actually included a facsimile of

891
00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:46,399
this letter itself in the appendix to

892
00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:48,960
the book which he didn't do with all of

893
00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:51,040
the correspondence he received so he

894
00:34:56,710 --> 00:34:53,520
believed clearly that this was

895
00:34:58,470 --> 00:34:56,720
a significant form of confirmation of

896
00:35:01,829 --> 00:34:58,480
his abilities or rather his

897
00:35:03,589 --> 00:35:01,839
relationships with the sis

898
00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:03,599
after the break we're going to come back

899
00:35:08,390 --> 00:35:06,000
and talk about how specifically he

900
00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:08,400
communicated with the sis and what he

901
00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:10,000
had to say about that what they had to

902
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:12,960
say about some situations on earth and

903
00:35:19,589 --> 00:35:16,000
we'll look at sort of later in the 1970s

904
00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:19,599
and into the 1980s how parapsychologist

905
00:35:24,150 --> 00:35:21,119
jeffrey mishlov

906
00:35:25,620 --> 00:35:24,160
had some dealings with the pk man as

907
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:25,630
well

908
00:35:34,390 --> 00:35:32,950
we'll be back in a week fielding your

909
00:35:37,030 --> 00:35:34,400
questions and comments about this

910
00:35:39,430 --> 00:35:37,040
episode as usual and maybe looking in a

911
00:35:42,470 --> 00:35:39,440
little more depth at that strange story

912
00:35:44,470 --> 00:35:42,480
about the sheriff's deputy in ohio then

913
00:35:46,950 --> 00:35:44,480
on the next regular episode we've got

914
00:35:48,390 --> 00:35:46,960
some john keel specifically we've got

915
00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:48,400
some interesting articles that kiel

916
00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:50,720
wrote for saga magazine a publication

917
00:35:56,069 --> 00:35:52,880
appearing here today and at various

918
00:35:58,150 --> 00:35:56,079
other times in our show's history if you

919
00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:58,160
like the saucer life and want more you

920
00:36:01,990 --> 00:35:59,839
can support us in exchange for bonus

921
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:02,000
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922
00:36:07,349 --> 00:36:03,920
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923
00:36:09,349 --> 00:36:07,359
it out at patreon.com chiso media or via

924
00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:09,359
the link in the show notes or google

925
00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:11,200
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926
00:36:14,470 --> 00:36:12,480
numerous ways

927
00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:14,480
to find the patreon you have to sort of

928
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:16,079
not be looking for it

929
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:18,000
in order to not

930
00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:19,520
find it

931
00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:20,720
or something

932
00:36:25,109 --> 00:36:22,640
you can check out past episodes at

933
00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:25,119
saucerlife.com or your favorite podcast

934
00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:26,720
app and as always we're on twitter and

935
00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:29,040
instagram saucerlife and you can email

936
00:36:35,349 --> 00:36:32,240
us at thesaucerlife gmail.com you can

937
00:36:40,890 --> 00:36:35,359
contact us by post at chiso media po box

938
00:36:45,910 --> 00:36:40,900
68 grand blank michigan 484 80.

939
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:48,550
so finally at the end of this first book

940
00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:50,160
we get to the chapter how you can

941
00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:52,160
contact the sis and it talks a little

942
00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:55,280
bit owens talks a little bit about the

943
00:37:01,349 --> 00:36:59,119
um the system he's used to communicate

944
00:37:03,589 --> 00:37:01,359
with them once he realized that he was

945
00:37:07,030 --> 00:37:03,599
talking to ufo people and not just the

946
00:37:10,150 --> 00:37:07,040
spirit of nature they gave him a system

947
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:10,160
in his mind's eye he saw a small chamber

948
00:37:13,589 --> 00:37:12,240
with two small creatures resembling

949
00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:13,599
grasshoppers they would eventually

950
00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:15,280
become known as

951
00:37:19,990 --> 00:37:17,520
twitter and tweeter

952
00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:20,000
which seems like a very 21st century

953
00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:22,880
thing so insects standing on two legs

954
00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:24,720
and they look down into a large oval

955
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:27,200
machine and in this machine through this

956
00:37:32,230 --> 00:37:29,280
oval window they could see

957
00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:32,240
him and if ted talked they would hear

958
00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:34,560
the sound and the machine translated it

959
00:37:40,310 --> 00:37:38,240
into symbols and high frequency sounds

960
00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:40,320
that the aliens could understand so he

961
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:42,240
would talk to them in english and it

962
00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:43,920
would be translated

963
00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:46,800
for them and then occasionally owens

964
00:37:50,470 --> 00:37:48,880
would communicate with their boss or a

965
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:50,480
higher intelligence who would be on the

966
00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:51,839
screen

967
00:37:55,349 --> 00:37:53,200
and

968
00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:55,359
that would happen like

969
00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:56,240
that

970
00:37:58,790 --> 00:37:57,040
he

971
00:38:00,630 --> 00:37:58,800
said quote it wasn't a face that

972
00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:00,640
appeared in the screen on the wall but a

973
00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:02,640
shadow which had the form of a face the

974
00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:04,240
only thing to be seen clearly were two

975
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:06,480
green eyes shining from the screen they

976
00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:07,680
made me know that their higher

977
00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:09,760
intelligence is made up of what we call

978
00:38:14,069 --> 00:38:12,240
light no form at all but it had a face

979
00:38:15,990 --> 00:38:14,079
out of shadow on the screen to converse

980
00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:16,000
with me because that's what i'm used to

981
00:38:21,270 --> 00:38:18,480
talking to a human face

982
00:38:22,150 --> 00:38:21,280
so it's a contact experience but it's

983
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:22,160
not

984
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:23,280
um

985
00:38:27,510 --> 00:38:25,680
it's not a typical contact experience

986
00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:27,520
it's not channeling

987
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:29,599
but it's it's psychic

988
00:38:32,870 --> 00:38:31,440
but there seems to be technology

989
00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:32,880
involved it's a

990
00:38:37,589 --> 00:38:33,839
very

991
00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:37,599
sort of unique contact situation so how

992
00:38:42,310 --> 00:38:40,400
can we do this how can how can readers

993
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:42,320
of the of the book do this

994
00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:44,400
owen says the easiest thing to do we

995
00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:46,079
have a leg up on everybody because we

996
00:38:51,270 --> 00:38:47,200
can

997
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:51,280
imitate what owens does but owens does

998
00:38:56,390 --> 00:38:54,240
discuss that he has had some extensive

999
00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:56,400
training he studied the roth memory

1000
00:39:02,470 --> 00:38:59,280
system which you can buy a book about

1001
00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:02,480
in a store he is a master of auto

1002
00:39:08,470 --> 00:39:05,040
hypnosis he says and he's been teaching

1003
00:39:09,510 --> 00:39:08,480
that technique to other people

1004
00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:09,520
he

1005
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:12,640
said that a scientist zac howe said that

1006
00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:14,320
they did not believe the essays could

1007
00:39:19,470 --> 00:39:16,400
have reached owens mentally without his

1008
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:19,480
deep experience and knowledge of

1009
00:39:22,790 --> 00:39:21,760
self-hypnosis so

1010
00:39:25,510 --> 00:39:22,800
learning

1011
00:39:27,270 --> 00:39:25,520
self-conditioning self-hypnosis the roth

1012
00:39:29,270 --> 00:39:27,280
system of memory

1013
00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:29,280
these things plus

1014
00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:32,160
what owens does will help you he says

1015
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:33,680
quote if you want to try to meet their

1016
00:39:38,390 --> 00:39:36,320
craft go through the above and tell them

1017
00:39:41,109 --> 00:39:38,400
you will go out into the country and the

1018
00:39:42,790 --> 00:39:41,119
next day or in two days etc then go out

1019
00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:42,800
into the country preferably after dark

1020
00:39:45,910 --> 00:39:44,720
to an area where there are no people and

1021
00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:45,920
where you definitely won't be

1022
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:47,680
interrupted switch on a strong

1023
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:49,680
flashlight set it down upon the ground

1024
00:39:53,349 --> 00:39:52,000
with its beam up into the air and sit

1025
00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:53,359
down in the dark

1026
00:39:57,910 --> 00:39:55,280
if a ufo ever does come to you force

1027
00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:57,920
yourself to sit still put your hands out

1028
00:40:02,470 --> 00:39:59,920
palms outward on the ground by your side

1029
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:02,480
or in your lap as it comes close or as

1030
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:04,400
the intelligence gets close by you may

1031
00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:06,960
want to scream and a force or pressure

1032
00:40:11,829 --> 00:40:09,359
may make you want to run run run but if

1033
00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:11,839
you can stick it out you'll meet the sis

1034
00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:13,520
i went through that ordeal one time and

1035
00:40:17,670 --> 00:40:15,520
will never forget it as long as i live

1036
00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:17,680
my hair stood up on my head i could

1037
00:40:23,910 --> 00:40:20,640
hardly get my breath it was ghastly

1038
00:40:25,109 --> 00:40:23,920
but wouldn't it be worth it to meet nsi

1039
00:40:26,790 --> 00:40:25,119
end quote

1040
00:40:29,670 --> 00:40:26,800
so that's what you have to do and if

1041
00:40:32,790 --> 00:40:29,680
you're familiar with stephen greer's um

1042
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:32,800
early attempts to go out and sort of ufo

1043
00:40:36,790 --> 00:40:34,079
watch there were some flashlights

1044
00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:36,800
involved so i'd be interested to know

1045
00:40:43,990 --> 00:40:40,480
if greer had done some of the uh sort of

1046
00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:44,000
psychic training and conditioning that

1047
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:46,640
that ted owens was involved with now

1048
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:48,240
there's a second book or booklet which

1049
00:40:53,589 --> 00:40:51,280
is questions and answers from the from

1050
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:53,599
the sis and

1051
00:40:56,790 --> 00:40:54,880
it's i'm going to put a link to it in

1052
00:41:00,550 --> 00:40:56,800
the show notes it's a lot to go through

1053
00:41:04,309 --> 00:41:00,560
it's a little tedious but i excerpted

1054
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:04,319
some of the ones that i thought was was

1055
00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:06,079
interesting one of the things we learn

1056
00:41:09,589 --> 00:41:07,280
is that

1057
00:41:11,270 --> 00:41:09,599
because of his interactions with them

1058
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:11,280
owens is now

1059
00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:12,480
part

1060
00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:18,240
s eyes and the sis are

1061
00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:21,280
protecting him and this clip begins with

1062
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:22,880
with the interviewer

1063
00:41:27,670 --> 00:41:25,200
character in this book asking you know

1064
00:41:30,150 --> 00:41:27,680
if that's because he's part s i now when

1065
00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:30,160
i recorded it it wasn't that clear but

1066
00:41:35,829 --> 00:41:32,800
there follows a story of how he's being

1067
00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:35,839
protected that owens tells that is that

1068
00:41:41,109 --> 00:41:38,640
it's just a little bit loony

1069
00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:41,119
since you are part s.i now

1070
00:41:44,309 --> 00:41:42,960
right and this sort of thing has gone on

1071
00:41:46,790 --> 00:41:44,319
through the years i should have been

1072
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:46,800
killed about 15 times by now another

1073
00:41:49,750 --> 00:41:48,400
exciting incident occurred when a blonde

1074
00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:49,760
woman hired me to drive her down to

1075
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:51,520
mexico city she paid me a thousand

1076
00:41:54,790 --> 00:41:52,960
dollars told me she was running away

1077
00:41:56,790 --> 00:41:54,800
from her cruel husband what she didn't

1078
00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:56,800
tell me until we were halfway there was

1079
00:42:00,150 --> 00:41:58,400
that she had stolen all the money out of

1080
00:42:01,990 --> 00:42:00,160
their joint bank account sold their home

1081
00:42:04,069 --> 00:42:02,000
in business and had the divorce papers

1082
00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:04,079
served on her husband the very day we

1083
00:42:08,069 --> 00:42:06,240
left for mexico city how she must have

1084
00:42:09,829 --> 00:42:08,079
hated him anyway i got her down to

1085
00:42:11,829 --> 00:42:09,839
mexico city safely and started back to

1086
00:42:13,589 --> 00:42:11,839
the states at the edge of durango i

1087
00:42:15,670 --> 00:42:13,599
stopped for gas at a filling station a

1088
00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:15,680
small boy was the attendant i went into

1089
00:42:19,430 --> 00:42:17,280
the station office to pay the boy when

1090
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:19,440
suddenly two men came to the door one

1091
00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:20,880
just stood outside the door keeping

1092
00:42:23,990 --> 00:42:22,319
watch and the other came in pulling a

1093
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:24,000
knife from his pocket the boy looked

1094
00:42:27,990 --> 00:42:25,680
petrified and told me these were very

1095
00:42:29,589 --> 00:42:28,000
bad men that he knew them instantly i

1096
00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:29,599
realized the blonde had decided to buy

1097
00:42:32,870 --> 00:42:31,040
some insurance that i wouldn't give her

1098
00:42:34,710 --> 00:42:32,880
hiding place away to her husband and had

1099
00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:34,720
sent these men after me i stared the

1100
00:42:38,309 --> 00:42:36,880
knife man in the eyes and he froze i

1101
00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:38,319
walked to the door and stared the other

1102
00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:40,079
man in the eyes then walked by him got

1103
00:42:44,069 --> 00:42:41,760
to my car and drove out of there as fast

1104
00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:44,079
as i could but just before i got to san

1105
00:42:48,309 --> 00:42:46,560
antonio still in mexico a truck with two

1106
00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:48,319
men in it rammed me from behind at full

1107
00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:50,400
speed whiplashing me violently and

1108
00:42:54,230 --> 00:42:52,560
knocking me out when i came to on the

1109
00:42:56,230 --> 00:42:54,240
ground outside my car where i'd been

1110
00:42:57,990 --> 00:42:56,240
thrown by the impact the truck was still

1111
00:43:00,710 --> 00:42:58,000
parked behind my car and the men were in

1112
00:43:02,470 --> 00:43:00,720
it i got up went up to them stared them

1113
00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:02,480
in their eyes and they drove off without

1114
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:04,720
saying a word another time my daughter

1115
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:06,160
lorney and i were walking along a

1116
00:43:10,470 --> 00:43:08,079
sidewalk in san antonio when suddenly a

1117
00:43:12,230 --> 00:43:10,480
man crossed the street walked toward me

1118
00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:12,240
pulled out a long knife and said over

1119
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:14,000
and over that he was going to kill me i

1120
00:43:18,309 --> 00:43:16,319
put down my satchel i was selling bibles

1121
00:43:20,230 --> 00:43:18,319
and put lorne behind me as the man

1122
00:43:22,069 --> 00:43:20,240
approached i looked him in the eyes he

1123
00:43:23,829 --> 00:43:22,079
came up to within a few feet of me had

1124
00:43:26,069 --> 00:43:23,839
the knife on his right hip professional

1125
00:43:28,069 --> 00:43:26,079
style with the cutting edge up i stared

1126
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:28,079
into his eyes suddenly he dropped the

1127
00:43:32,230 --> 00:43:30,480
knife got down on his knees and began to

1128
00:43:34,069 --> 00:43:32,240
pat lorney on the head she had etched

1129
00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:34,079
around to see what was going on he

1130
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:36,160
apologized to lorney for threatening me

1131
00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:40,000
picked up the knife and ran away

1132
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:43,520
whatever else you say about ted owens

1133
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:46,240
i think it's clear that there is no

1134
00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:47,920
contact d at least that i've encountered

1135
00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:51,520
so far that had a story that

1136
00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:54,960
that crazy and wild it was it's it's fun

1137
00:43:59,670 --> 00:43:56,960
it's it's just fun but there are other

1138
00:44:02,710 --> 00:43:59,680
areas in which owens's knowledge gained

1139
00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:02,720
through the sis is um potentially you

1140
00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:05,520
know lacking in some ways this

1141
00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:08,800
exchange struck me as odd

1142
00:44:11,670 --> 00:44:10,480
how many planets are there in the solar

1143
00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:11,680
system

1144
00:44:14,710 --> 00:44:12,640
what

1145
00:44:16,230 --> 00:44:14,720
planets i wouldn't know about that i've

1146
00:44:16,970 --> 00:44:16,240
never discussed anything like that with

1147
00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:16,980
the sis

1148
00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:20,480
[Music]

1149
00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:23,200
i mean the answer at the time was like

1150
00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:24,079
nine

1151
00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:27,839
but um yeah just a strange gap in the

1152
00:44:32,150 --> 00:44:31,040
knowledge um he also gets into

1153
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:32,160
some

1154
00:44:34,829 --> 00:44:33,280
um

1155
00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:34,839
geopolitical

1156
00:44:39,589 --> 00:44:37,440
prognostications that are

1157
00:44:41,829 --> 00:44:39,599
a bit strange again i will

1158
00:44:45,670 --> 00:44:41,839
tell you that that these words are ted

1159
00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:45,680
owens's they are not mine

1160
00:44:50,309 --> 00:44:48,160
you say the sis might destroy the us

1161
00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:50,319
could you enlarge on that no you're

1162
00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:52,400
wrong i didn't say that the sis will

1163
00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:54,400
allow russia and china to destroy us if

1164
00:44:59,270 --> 00:44:56,960
we don't cooperate with the sis think of

1165
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:59,280
the world as a large field on a farm if

1166
00:45:02,550 --> 00:45:00,800
one section of the field won't grow

1167
00:45:04,150 --> 00:45:02,560
crops or be productive then the farmer

1168
00:45:06,230 --> 00:45:04,160
will just quit planting on it and let it

1169
00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:06,240
go to rot and that's what will happen to

1170
00:45:09,589 --> 00:45:08,240
the u.s if we don't pay attention to the

1171
00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:09,599
sis

1172
00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:11,280
you say the asians and blacks will

1173
00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:12,560
become the big powers in the world

1174
00:45:15,430 --> 00:45:13,839
eventually

1175
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:15,440
yes that's right the asian race will

1176
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:17,440
become the main chief power of the world

1177
00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:19,280
after the u.s is destroyed and the black

1178
00:45:22,870 --> 00:45:21,280
people become the second largest power

1179
00:45:24,550 --> 00:45:22,880
the asians will come pouring over the

1180
00:45:26,309 --> 00:45:24,560
alaskan straits incidentally into this

1181
00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:26,319
country to occupy it after we've been

1182
00:45:30,069 --> 00:45:28,000
destroyed and when that happens the

1183
00:45:31,670 --> 00:45:30,079
whites will practically be non-existent

1184
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:31,680
if there are any whites left the asians

1185
00:45:34,390 --> 00:45:32,880
and blacks will pursue them and

1186
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:34,400
eliminate them as if they were the

1187
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:36,000
plague because the asians and blacks

1188
00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:37,440
have had enough of the whites in this

1189
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:38,960
world

1190
00:45:42,069 --> 00:45:40,160
do you think they will put the whites

1191
00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:42,079
and colonies by themselves

1192
00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:43,440
no i don't think they'll allow the

1193
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:45,119
whites to exist and risk the whites

1194
00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:47,040
becoming numerous and strong again i

1195
00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:48,319
think the whites will be attacked and

1196
00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:49,920
eliminated in the same way that we

1197
00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:51,680
attack and eliminate cancer in the body

1198
00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:53,280
when we find it

1199
00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:55,760
after the u.s is destroyed the sis will

1200
00:45:58,870 --> 00:45:57,200
still come down and try to help the

1201
00:46:00,390 --> 00:45:58,880
world won't they

1202
00:46:02,150 --> 00:46:00,400
no i don't think so

1203
00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:02,160
after the nuclear war that destroys the

1204
00:46:06,150 --> 00:46:04,400
us the sis will be so far behind in

1205
00:46:07,829 --> 00:46:06,160
their plans it will be pitiful that's

1206
00:46:09,589 --> 00:46:07,839
why they put such a high value on me

1207
00:46:11,750 --> 00:46:09,599
because i can communicate with the sis

1208
00:46:14,309 --> 00:46:11,760
and other humans the first human to be

1209
00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:14,319
able to do so since moses's time now the

1210
00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:16,560
o i's want this to happen want us to be

1211
00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:18,960
destroyed want the sis held back unable

1212
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:27,430
that's quite the prediction the ois by

1213
00:46:32,309 --> 00:46:29,680
the way are other intelligences sort of

1214
00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:32,319
the the bad guys to the sis good guys

1215
00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:35,040
although the sis don't strike me as good

1216
00:46:38,950 --> 00:46:37,599
guys in any particularly

1217
00:46:42,470 --> 00:46:38,960
traditional

1218
00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:42,480
good guy sort of uh sort of manner so

1219
00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:45,760
we've got some geopolitical predictions

1220
00:46:50,550 --> 00:46:48,480
here we've got some

1221
00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:50,560
international

1222
00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:53,920
racial and ethnic politics sort of sort

1223
00:46:59,589 --> 00:46:58,240
of playing out in an odd way and we also

1224
00:47:00,550 --> 00:46:59,599
have

1225
00:47:03,589 --> 00:47:00,560
just

1226
00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:03,599
other um other things that that he says

1227
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:06,319
in this booklet of questions

1228
00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:08,800
and answers uh but one thing that that

1229
00:47:13,750 --> 00:47:10,400
comes across

1230
00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:13,760
over and over is is the importance of

1231
00:47:17,990 --> 00:47:15,200
owens's

1232
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:18,000
position in this entire story he said in

1233
00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:20,319
that last excerpt that he's the first

1234
00:47:25,829 --> 00:47:22,000
human to be able to communicate between

1235
00:47:28,470 --> 00:47:25,839
the sis and humanity since moses's time

1236
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:28,480
so basically he sets himself up as moses

1237
00:47:32,390 --> 00:47:29,280
which

1238
00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:32,400
i guess makes the sis the god of the

1239
00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:35,440
hebrew bible or at least that

1240
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:38,160
figure in the story we also learn that

1241
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:40,800
the flying saucers piloted by the sis

1242
00:47:45,349 --> 00:47:42,960
are impossible to destroy they never

1243
00:47:48,470 --> 00:47:45,359
have accidents

1244
00:47:51,510 --> 00:47:48,480
the beings the humanoid beings the human

1245
00:47:53,109 --> 00:47:51,520
appearing beings that contact these have

1246
00:47:55,510 --> 00:47:53,119
encountered

1247
00:47:57,190 --> 00:47:55,520
owens has asked about that he says that

1248
00:48:00,069 --> 00:47:57,200
the higher forms of

1249
00:48:03,349 --> 00:48:00,079
sis are taking the shape of humans or

1250
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:03,359
another option is that the sis hypnotize

1251
00:48:09,190 --> 00:48:06,079
some humans into believing they have

1252
00:48:11,829 --> 00:48:09,200
human form so when george adamski meets

1253
00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:11,839
orthon in the california desert he's

1254
00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:14,319
probably meeting one of owens's sis who

1255
00:48:19,589 --> 00:48:16,960
has either conditioned adamski's mind to

1256
00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:19,599
see him in a certain way or is taking on

1257
00:48:25,829 --> 00:48:22,400
this sort of shape-shifted form

1258
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:25,839
now owens is 1972 booklet it's about 35

1259
00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:28,960
pages uh flying saucer intelligence's

1260
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:30,240
speak

1261
00:48:34,390 --> 00:48:33,359
goes into his well begins with rather

1262
00:48:38,470 --> 00:48:34,400
his

1263
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:38,480
earliest experiences

1264
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:40,240
but it does so in a way that's different

1265
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:42,480
from the 1960

1266
00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:45,359
68 book because it deals more directly

1267
00:48:51,430 --> 00:48:48,480
with the messages he got from these

1268
00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:51,440
alien powers and it's

1269
00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:54,160
a lot of it goes into the predictions

1270
00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:55,440
and then the results of those

1271
00:48:58,710 --> 00:48:57,440
predictions but there is some really

1272
00:49:02,390 --> 00:48:58,720
interesting stuff

1273
00:49:05,829 --> 00:49:02,400
about the the earliest dialogues between

1274
00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:05,839
owens and the sis

1275
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:07,680
first the triangle and rectangle popped

1276
00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:10,480
into my mind then the letters a b and c

1277
00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:12,240
i realized that had never happened

1278
00:49:16,069 --> 00:49:13,920
before and that the ufos must be

1279
00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:16,079
contacting me so i shushed the kids

1280
00:49:18,870 --> 00:49:17,680
grabbed a pencil and paper and began

1281
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:18,880
making notes

1282
00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:20,640
the following is what came through at 10

1283
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:21,520
pm

1284
00:49:26,950 --> 00:49:24,880
on february 6th 1965.

1285
00:49:28,390 --> 00:49:26,960
can't come later we'll go find them and

1286
00:49:30,549 --> 00:49:28,400
blot out

1287
00:49:33,349 --> 00:49:30,559
when can we meet we know you we are

1288
00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:33,359
friends tonight is late for us power low

1289
00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:35,839
keep open mind we will be back with you

1290
00:49:39,910 --> 00:49:38,000
your needs will be met a study is being

1291
00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:39,920
made of how to bring this about why are

1292
00:49:43,510 --> 00:49:41,680
your people crazy your earth is

1293
00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:43,520
disorganized we would like to help

1294
00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:46,079
organize it we did it once before long

1295
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:48,720
ago in your time people wore robes as

1296
00:49:55,829 --> 00:49:51,760
you call them then and wore beards hair

1297
00:50:01,510 --> 00:49:58,870
so the sis communicate with owens and

1298
00:50:03,190 --> 00:50:01,520
they want owens to to track these

1299
00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:03,200
manifestations they're going to cause

1300
00:50:08,150 --> 00:50:04,720
that are that are proof

1301
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:08,160
that they are who they say they are

1302
00:50:12,870 --> 00:50:09,119
but

1303
00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:12,880
owens has an issue with this

1304
00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:14,640
we will arrange in the next few days to

1305
00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:16,240
be seen by your people and by that

1306
00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:17,760
method you will know we are making a

1307
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:19,760
signal for you count the number of

1308
00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:21,280
different places we are seen and this

1309
00:50:25,270 --> 00:50:22,960
will be the number of days before we are

1310
00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:25,280
able to contact you again a magnetic

1311
00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:27,040
condition makes it hard for us to get

1312
00:50:30,549 --> 00:50:28,880
through to you at all times

1313
00:50:32,470 --> 00:50:30,559
you have a question

1314
00:50:34,069 --> 00:50:32,480
yes i need money save five thousand

1315
00:50:35,430 --> 00:50:34,079
dollars to buy a car and go across

1316
00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:35,440
country to meet you

1317
00:50:42,630 --> 00:50:39,200
yes we know money but we do not use it

1318
00:50:47,589 --> 00:50:44,870
owens is pretty quick to inform them

1319
00:50:50,069 --> 00:50:47,599
that yes diamonds will do nicely you can

1320
00:50:52,309 --> 00:50:50,079
exchange diamonds for money and the sis

1321
00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:52,319
say that where they where they came from

1322
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:54,240
we have all kinds of diamonds and owens

1323
00:50:58,069 --> 00:50:55,920
says that they need to fly over his

1324
00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:58,079
house and drop the diamonds

1325
00:51:02,710 --> 00:50:59,520
and um

1326
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:04,710
we will think of it if we do we will

1327
00:51:08,390 --> 00:51:06,240
include the tool you need to prove to

1328
00:51:11,589 --> 00:51:08,400
your people there must be no people war

1329
00:51:13,670 --> 00:51:11,599
on earth with atomic weapons

1330
00:51:16,950 --> 00:51:13,680
i mostly included that for the phrase

1331
00:51:18,790 --> 00:51:16,960
people war with atomic weapons a month

1332
00:51:22,230 --> 00:51:18,800
later owens is in the house with his

1333
00:51:26,230 --> 00:51:22,240
kids and they are listening to the radio

1334
00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:26,240
and the sis communicate with him again

1335
00:51:31,349 --> 00:51:28,640
we have a plan please turn that machine

1336
00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:31,359
off can't get through very good

1337
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:34,319
very well do you have a car machine

1338
00:51:38,549 --> 00:51:36,400
yes but it will not work it's broken

1339
00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:38,559
that's why i need money we are going to

1340
00:51:43,109 --> 00:51:41,200
take care of that money do not worry

1341
00:51:44,950 --> 00:51:43,119
about it you will be richer than anyone

1342
00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:44,960
in your country before long

1343
00:51:48,710 --> 00:51:47,440
we want to see you talk to you can we

1344
00:51:51,750 --> 00:51:48,720
come down

1345
00:51:53,270 --> 00:51:51,760
uh yeah in my backyard i'll let you in

1346
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:53,280
will you be alone

1347
00:51:59,109 --> 00:51:55,920
yes i'll have my family upstairs

1348
00:52:00,710 --> 00:51:59,119
no harm will come to us no absolutely no

1349
00:52:02,790 --> 00:52:00,720
lower your flying machine near my back

1350
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:02,800
door and step onto my back porch knock

1351
00:52:07,030 --> 00:52:04,720
loudly on the door i'll let you in and

1352
00:52:08,630 --> 00:52:07,040
we can communicate i'm very pleased and

1353
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:08,640
anxious to meet you

1354
00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:10,800
yes we have what you need to convince

1355
00:52:15,829 --> 00:52:12,640
your crazy people your government that

1356
00:52:18,870 --> 00:52:15,839
we exist and can control your world if

1357
00:52:20,549 --> 00:52:18,880
you can use it it will be yours to keep

1358
00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:20,559
you need a car so that you can go far

1359
00:52:24,870 --> 00:52:21,440
away

1360
00:52:29,430 --> 00:52:27,270
owens does acknowledge that the one

1361
00:52:31,829 --> 00:52:29,440
promise that the sis have not kept is

1362
00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:31,839
that he will have more money than anyone

1363
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:33,920
on earth but another thing that happens

1364
00:52:38,710 --> 00:52:35,680
here is that

1365
00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:38,720
one of owens's children um beau his son

1366
00:52:46,630 --> 00:52:43,359
beau had german measles and a friend

1367
00:52:49,589 --> 00:52:46,640
of theirs a young girl was in a hospital

1368
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:49,599
and was was thought to be dying and the

1369
00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:51,280
saucer intelligences

1370
00:52:55,349 --> 00:52:52,880
make it clear that they will heal them

1371
00:52:56,870 --> 00:52:55,359
and later on in his career owens will

1372
00:52:59,510 --> 00:52:56,880
engage in

1373
00:53:01,109 --> 00:52:59,520
psychic healing activities

1374
00:53:03,030 --> 00:53:01,119
now in addition to

1375
00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:03,040
learning that they are able to heal

1376
00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:05,520
people remotely we also learn a little

1377
00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:06,480
bit

1378
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:10,240
are from

1379
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:11,760
where are you from

1380
00:53:16,870 --> 00:53:14,800
some jupiter others other places

1381
00:53:18,060 --> 00:53:16,880
even from inside this earth

1382
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:18,070
goodbye now

1383
00:53:22,150 --> 00:53:19,920
[Music]

1384
00:53:25,670 --> 00:53:22,160
i like that they're not all from the

1385
00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:25,680
same place now at another point

1386
00:53:30,870 --> 00:53:28,960
owens is intending to go to

1387
00:53:32,710 --> 00:53:30,880
vietnam

1388
00:53:33,990 --> 00:53:32,720
through the government to

1389
00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:34,000
he doesn't really explain what he's

1390
00:53:38,069 --> 00:53:35,359
trying to do but

1391
00:53:39,510 --> 00:53:38,079
the intelligences are not keen on the

1392
00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:39,520
idea

1393
00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:41,280
do not go away far

1394
00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:43,760
vietnam your people will try to kill you

1395
00:53:48,230 --> 00:53:46,319
we need you alive listen carefully there

1396
00:53:50,549 --> 00:53:48,240
are others like us against us who could

1397
00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:50,559
cause you harm be careful of your life

1398
00:53:54,870 --> 00:53:52,880
of your shell it has taken us ages in

1399
00:53:56,470 --> 00:53:54,880
your time to find a shell like you who

1400
00:53:58,309 --> 00:53:56,480
can communicate with us

1401
00:54:00,150 --> 00:53:58,319
we do not want to lose you but remember

1402
00:54:03,109 --> 00:54:00,160
that you are every moment in great

1403
00:54:05,589 --> 00:54:03,119
danger from them who use shell bodies

1404
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:05,599
they look like and seem like real people

1405
00:54:09,589 --> 00:54:06,970
but they are not

1406
00:54:13,270 --> 00:54:09,599
[Music]

1407
00:54:15,670 --> 00:54:13,280
from there it basically recounts owens's

1408
00:54:18,950 --> 00:54:15,680
claims of of having these messages from

1409
00:54:21,990 --> 00:54:18,960
the sis and then the proof that appears

1410
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:22,000
in the various newspapers and this 30

1411
00:54:29,030 --> 00:54:26,240
some page pamphlet ends with a message

1412
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:29,040
to the american people from the flying

1413
00:54:35,829 --> 00:54:32,880
saucer intelligence and in it a little

1414
00:54:38,710 --> 00:54:35,839
it's like four or five pages they give

1415
00:54:41,589 --> 00:54:38,720
some indication of what they're after

1416
00:54:44,870 --> 00:54:41,599
and how they're going to convince us

1417
00:54:46,630 --> 00:54:44,880
of their abilities

1418
00:54:48,390 --> 00:54:46,640
we are causing severe drought with our

1419
00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:48,400
machines in your skies so that we can

1420
00:54:52,309 --> 00:54:50,319
teach you a basic lesson which is that

1421
00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:52,319
our intelligence is far superior to that

1422
00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:54,480
of earth intelligence we can control

1423
00:54:57,670 --> 00:54:56,720
earth people because we can control what

1424
00:54:58,710 --> 00:54:57,680
you call

1425
00:55:01,270 --> 00:54:58,720
weather

1426
00:55:02,789 --> 00:55:01,280
when and not before our earth human has

1427
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:02,799
been accepted by our government and put

1428
00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:05,440
to good use then and only then will we

1429
00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:07,040
release the drought conditions and let

1430
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:08,880
rainfall come in abundance down onto

1431
00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:11,040
your thirsty earth we will also add

1432
00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:13,200
pestilence and sickness and what you

1433
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:13,920
call

1434
00:55:16,710 --> 00:55:15,040
accidents

1435
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:16,720
we will follow the structure of events

1436
00:55:20,549 --> 00:55:18,400
which we used as in the days of the

1437
00:55:22,309 --> 00:55:20,559
human you know as moses as he strove

1438
00:55:24,630 --> 00:55:22,319
against the ruler of the great country

1439
00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:24,640
called egypt and we helped moses in that

1440
00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:27,200
day so shall we help the human friend we

1441
00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:30,000
know now as ted owens it may please him

1442
00:55:33,990 --> 00:55:31,839
to think that he is the rainmaker of

1443
00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:34,000
course we make the rain for him but what

1444
00:55:37,349 --> 00:55:35,920
is the difference so that you people of

1445
00:55:39,349 --> 00:55:37,359
the earth will believe the message we

1446
00:55:41,349 --> 00:55:39,359
send to you and we do not expect you to

1447
00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:41,359
believe it unless we show proof

1448
00:55:45,109 --> 00:55:42,880
listen carefully

1449
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:45,119
from now on in time ahead we will lift

1450
00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:46,880
the drought for a little and let it rain

1451
00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:49,200
where it is needed then lest you think

1452
00:55:53,270 --> 00:55:51,520
it is perchance we will drop the curtain

1453
00:55:55,510 --> 00:55:53,280
once more with our machines and let the

1454
00:55:57,670 --> 00:55:55,520
rays of the sun penetrate the bowels of

1455
00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:57,680
the earth and dry up your rivers your

1456
00:56:01,190 --> 00:56:00,319
lakes your plants until you accept our

1457
00:56:05,270 --> 00:56:01,200
human

1458
00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:08,069
so again there's a heavy emphasis on

1459
00:56:16,630 --> 00:56:12,240
people accepting ted owens as a

1460
00:56:18,870 --> 00:56:16,640
you know messenger of the ufos or as the

1461
00:56:20,549 --> 00:56:18,880
first article about ted owens in saga

1462
00:56:23,829 --> 00:56:20,559
magazine in

1463
00:56:25,589 --> 00:56:23,839
august of 1970 would put it a spokesman

1464
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:25,599
for the ufos

1465
00:56:29,510 --> 00:56:27,440
the article sort of has the little

1466
00:56:31,750 --> 00:56:29,520
heading have we been sent and ignored

1467
00:56:33,510 --> 00:56:31,760
messages from spacemen do the saucer

1468
00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:33,520
intelligences control our weather our

1469
00:56:38,309 --> 00:56:35,680
civilization our very lives with their

1470
00:56:40,630 --> 00:56:38,319
incredibly advanced science has one man

1471
00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:40,640
ted owens really been selected to relay

1472
00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:42,960
their warnings and predictions do we

1473
00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:45,280
have in our midst a spokesman for the

1474
00:56:49,109 --> 00:56:46,559
ufos

1475
00:56:51,109 --> 00:56:49,119
otto o binder

1476
00:56:53,270 --> 00:56:51,119
who has written some uh had written some

1477
00:56:55,589 --> 00:56:53,280
ufo books and we are there's gonna be an

1478
00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:55,599
auto binder episode in our future

1479
00:57:01,829 --> 00:56:58,319
long history of writing science fiction

1480
00:57:04,870 --> 00:57:01,839
writing um writing comic books huge huge

1481
00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:04,880
numbers of captain marvel and marvel

1482
00:57:08,870 --> 00:57:06,160
family

1483
00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:08,880
comics for fawcett comics back in the

1484
00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:12,480
day he also wrote for saga magazine

1485
00:57:17,190 --> 00:57:14,720
about various paranormal topics

1486
00:57:19,349 --> 00:57:17,200
including several articles about

1487
00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:19,359
ted owens and for the most part these

1488
00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:22,160
articles recap the stories and the

1489
00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:24,000
predictions and the results that were

1490
00:57:27,430 --> 00:57:25,520
told in

1491
00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:27,440
the book but there are a couple

1492
00:57:32,309 --> 00:57:29,440
interesting ones that i thought that i

1493
00:57:36,069 --> 00:57:32,319
thought would be fun to mention

1494
00:57:38,789 --> 00:57:36,079
owens wrote a letter in july of 1969 to

1495
00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:38,799
president nixon that said the sis told

1496
00:57:43,109 --> 00:57:40,880
me that there's already a plot underway

1497
00:57:45,190 --> 00:57:43,119
has been completely planned to kidnap

1498
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:45,200
you at your key biscayne residence the

1499
00:57:49,109 --> 00:57:47,440
bad guys cubans know how well protected

1500
00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:49,119
you are but they're going to strike at

1501
00:57:53,510 --> 00:57:51,520
night by water with fast boats with a

1502
00:57:54,950 --> 00:57:53,520
highly skilled commando group of 50 to

1503
00:57:58,390 --> 00:57:54,960
100 men

1504
00:58:00,390 --> 00:57:58,400
signed ted owens pk man and

1505
00:58:01,430 --> 00:58:00,400
binder reports a month later the miami

1506
00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:01,440
herald

1507
00:58:06,630 --> 00:58:03,839
talks about a spy plot that

1508
00:58:09,270 --> 00:58:06,640
shatters prospects for renewing cuba and

1509
00:58:11,030 --> 00:58:09,280
u.s ties that castro's u.n diplomats

1510
00:58:13,990 --> 00:58:11,040
have been revealed to spies

1511
00:58:17,589 --> 00:58:14,000
as a lot of diplomats sometimes are this

1512
00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:17,599
was taken as a as a confirmation of

1513
00:58:23,349 --> 00:58:20,640
owens's uh owen's predictions one thing

1514
00:58:25,589 --> 00:58:23,359
that this initial article uh by binder

1515
00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:25,599
about owens and sort of some interview

1516
00:58:30,870 --> 00:58:27,920
stuff with him makes clear is that owens

1517
00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:30,880
is not a ufo person he's not a ufologist

1518
00:58:33,829 --> 00:58:32,960
he's not active in the ufo field in any

1519
00:58:35,750 --> 00:58:33,839
way

1520
00:58:39,190 --> 00:58:35,760
he's just a guy who has these abilities

1521
00:58:42,710 --> 00:58:39,200
because of a ufo and and from the space

1522
00:58:44,309 --> 00:58:42,720
intelligences and they they asked or

1523
00:58:46,470 --> 00:58:44,319
otto bender asked him some questions

1524
00:58:48,549 --> 00:58:46,480
about monster men and humanoids

1525
00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:48,559
and owens quote admitted he knew very

1526
00:58:51,910 --> 00:58:50,240
little about these creatures so often

1527
00:58:54,150 --> 00:58:51,920
seen during saucer landings but he

1528
00:58:56,549 --> 00:58:54,160
ventured this concept which binder said

1529
00:58:59,349 --> 00:58:56,559
should interest coral lorenzen who wrote

1530
00:59:02,870 --> 00:58:59,359
books about monster men and humanoids

1531
00:59:04,870 --> 00:59:02,880
owens said that the strange humanoids

1532
00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:04,880
that appear during some landings the

1533
00:59:09,349 --> 00:59:06,960
hairy dwarves and things like that are

1534
00:59:12,069 --> 00:59:09,359
the si's pets

1535
00:59:14,230 --> 00:59:12,079
so that is his uh his explanation for

1536
00:59:15,670 --> 00:59:14,240
that the next month in september there

1537
00:59:17,349 --> 00:59:15,680
were more

1538
00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:17,359
examples of

1539
00:59:21,510 --> 00:59:19,440
owens's predictions including this is

1540
00:59:24,069 --> 00:59:21,520
this is one that i think is really

1541
00:59:25,750 --> 00:59:24,079
interesting that uh president johnson

1542
00:59:28,789 --> 00:59:25,760
president lyndon b johnson was under

1543
00:59:30,710 --> 00:59:28,799
threat of a man uh planning to load a

1544
00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:30,720
small plane with high explosives and

1545
00:59:35,190 --> 00:59:32,400
send it into

1546
00:59:36,870 --> 00:59:35,200
the either the white house or johnson's

1547
00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:36,880
ranch in texas

1548
00:59:41,510 --> 00:59:39,280
and a year later

1549
00:59:43,670 --> 00:59:41,520
headline new york times flyer denied

1550
00:59:45,910 --> 00:59:43,680
bail on threat of crashing into the

1551
00:59:47,349 --> 00:59:45,920
white house a former air force pilot has

1552
00:59:49,430 --> 00:59:47,359
been jailed pending sentence because of

1553
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:49,440
an alleged threat to plunge a plane

1554
00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:52,720
into the white house so things like that

1555
00:59:56,390 --> 00:59:53,599
made

1556
00:59:59,670 --> 00:59:56,400
people think that perhaps

1557
01:00:01,829 --> 00:59:59,680
ted owens might have more going on

1558
01:00:03,910 --> 01:00:01,839
psychically than some gave him credit

1559
01:00:05,349 --> 01:00:03,920
for which brings us

1560
01:00:07,990 --> 01:00:05,359
albeit briefly

1561
01:00:10,470 --> 01:00:08,000
to the book the pk man

1562
01:00:13,510 --> 01:00:10,480
a true story of mind over matter by

1563
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:13,520
psychologist and parapsychologist he is

1564
01:00:18,470 --> 01:00:17,040
both um jeffrey mishlov phd who holds

1565
01:00:22,309 --> 01:00:18,480
according to the biography on his

1566
01:00:25,030 --> 01:00:22,319
website uh the only uh the only doctoral

1567
01:00:27,349 --> 01:00:25,040
diploma in parapsychology to be awarded

1568
01:00:29,510 --> 01:00:27,359
by an accredited american universities

1569
01:00:32,309 --> 01:00:29,520
from university of california at

1570
01:00:34,789 --> 01:00:32,319
berkeley and his doctoral dissertation

1571
01:00:35,670 --> 01:00:34,799
was about side development systems which

1572
01:00:40,829 --> 01:00:35,680
is

1573
01:00:42,750 --> 01:00:40,839
between

1574
01:00:45,990 --> 01:00:42,760
1976 and

1575
01:00:48,549 --> 01:00:46,000
1987 i believe which is when uh which is

1576
01:00:50,549 --> 01:00:48,559
when owens died and one of the things

1577
01:00:53,510 --> 01:00:50,559
about mishlov's

1578
01:00:57,030 --> 01:00:53,520
book the pk man that is very clear

1579
01:00:58,789 --> 01:00:57,040
is that if owens really did have the

1580
01:01:01,109 --> 01:00:58,799
psychokinetic powers

1581
01:01:03,910 --> 01:01:01,119
he said he did uh regardless of their

1582
01:01:06,390 --> 01:01:03,920
source whether it was ufo or space

1583
01:01:09,510 --> 01:01:06,400
intelligence based or not

1584
01:01:12,630 --> 01:01:09,520
his actions are ethically questionable

1585
01:01:15,109 --> 01:01:12,640
at one point if you recall as i do from

1586
01:01:16,870 --> 01:01:15,119
being like four the mount saint helens

1587
01:01:20,870 --> 01:01:16,880
volcano eruption

1588
01:01:23,670 --> 01:01:20,880
you know um owens apparently you know

1589
01:01:25,750 --> 01:01:23,680
did this he directed his children to

1590
01:01:28,789 --> 01:01:25,760
according to mishlov direct energy at

1591
01:01:31,109 --> 01:01:28,799
mount saint helens to make it explode

1592
01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:31,119
which is which is pretty bad

1593
01:01:36,950 --> 01:01:31,920
so

1594
01:01:39,910 --> 01:01:36,960
thinks there is merit in

1595
01:01:41,910 --> 01:01:39,920
in owens's claims he underwent owens's

1596
01:01:43,030 --> 01:01:41,920
training uh which is involved in a

1597
01:01:45,349 --> 01:01:43,040
chapter which

1598
01:01:46,309 --> 01:01:45,359
comprises a chapter of the book late in

1599
01:01:49,109 --> 01:01:46,319
the book

1600
01:01:50,829 --> 01:01:49,119
and it's interesting because we see the

1601
01:01:54,230 --> 01:01:50,839
development of

1602
01:01:56,230 --> 01:01:54,240
owens's personality and use of his

1603
01:01:59,029 --> 01:01:56,240
alleged abilities after the point where

1604
01:02:01,349 --> 01:01:59,039
he stops writing these letters he worked

1605
01:02:05,349 --> 01:02:01,359
briefly with with researchers like

1606
01:02:07,990 --> 01:02:05,359
russell targ and hal pudov initially and

1607
01:02:11,270 --> 01:02:08,000
who are you know renowned thinkers in in

1608
01:02:14,069 --> 01:02:11,280
the psy and remote viewing world and to

1609
01:02:16,470 --> 01:02:14,079
some degree the the ufo world later on

1610
01:02:19,109 --> 01:02:16,480
and this aspect of owens's life all

1611
01:02:19,990 --> 01:02:19,119
begins in 1976

1612
01:02:22,230 --> 01:02:20,000
when

1613
01:02:24,150 --> 01:02:22,240
he writes to

1614
01:02:25,910 --> 01:02:24,160
owen's rights to put off in targ and

1615
01:02:29,510 --> 01:02:25,920
tells them that he's going to show off

1616
01:02:33,029 --> 01:02:29,520
his powers and this is what he said to

1617
01:02:35,270 --> 01:02:33,039
them in 1976

1618
01:02:37,589 --> 01:02:35,280
last night on tv the evening news showed

1619
01:02:39,109 --> 01:02:37,599
a stricken california crops are dead and

1620
01:02:42,069 --> 01:02:39,119
dying and the animals are in pitiful

1621
01:02:43,349 --> 01:02:42,079
conditions now i ted owens pk man will

1622
01:02:45,109 --> 01:02:43,359
change all of that

1623
01:02:46,950 --> 01:02:45,119
within the next 90 days from the time of

1624
01:02:49,029 --> 01:02:46,960
this letter i will pour and pour and

1625
01:02:51,349 --> 01:02:49,039
pour rains onto and into the state of

1626
01:02:53,029 --> 01:02:51,359
california until it is swimming in water

1627
01:02:55,430 --> 01:02:53,039
and the dangerous drought is completely

1628
01:02:57,430 --> 01:02:55,440
over there will be storm after storm

1629
01:02:58,380 --> 01:02:57,440
lightning after lightning attacks and

1630
01:03:00,789 --> 01:02:58,390
high winds

1631
01:03:03,190 --> 01:03:00,799
[Music]

1632
01:03:06,390 --> 01:03:03,200
and then in true ted owens fashion what

1633
01:03:08,950 --> 01:03:06,400
happens a massive storm that causes

1634
01:03:10,390 --> 01:03:08,960
some pretty disastrous conditions in the

1635
01:03:13,670 --> 01:03:10,400
drought-stricken uh in the

1636
01:03:18,309 --> 01:03:13,680
drought-stricken area so mishlov

1637
01:03:20,470 --> 01:03:18,319
later in 1978 asks um asks owens to uh

1638
01:03:22,950 --> 01:03:20,480
to you know replicate

1639
01:03:25,990 --> 01:03:22,960
one of his ufo demonstrations this time

1640
01:03:28,470 --> 01:03:26,000
in the uh in the san francisco area and

1641
01:03:30,549 --> 01:03:28,480
this is uh this is how owens responds to

1642
01:03:32,230 --> 01:03:30,559
mishlov's request

1643
01:03:33,990 --> 01:03:32,240
in the interest of science i'm going to

1644
01:03:35,510 --> 01:03:34,000
give a demonstration of my psi force

1645
01:03:37,510 --> 01:03:35,520
abilities to the people who live in the

1646
01:03:39,430 --> 01:03:37,520
san francisco area 100 miles in

1647
01:03:41,029 --> 01:03:39,440
circumference using san francisco as the

1648
01:03:42,950 --> 01:03:41,039
bull's eye of my target

1649
01:03:45,190 --> 01:03:42,960
as of today and daily for the following

1650
01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:45,200
90 days i will telepath the living

1651
01:03:49,029 --> 01:03:46,720
entities in another dimension for them

1652
01:03:50,789 --> 01:03:49,039
to appear in the above target area so

1653
01:03:52,470 --> 01:03:50,799
that they may be seen by police

1654
01:03:54,309 --> 01:03:52,480
scientists or other responsible

1655
01:03:56,309 --> 01:03:54,319
observers who are qualified to report

1656
01:03:58,309 --> 01:03:56,319
the sightings also for them to cause

1657
01:04:00,630 --> 01:03:58,319
electromagnetic and magnetic anomalies

1658
01:04:02,870 --> 01:04:00,640
within the above described area it is my

1659
01:04:05,029 --> 01:04:02,880
intent to produce not one but at least

1660
01:04:07,670 --> 01:04:05,039
three major ufo sightings as described

1661
01:04:09,510 --> 01:04:07,680
above within the above name time period

1662
01:04:11,430 --> 01:04:09,520
to be reported in the newspapers in

1663
01:04:14,150 --> 01:04:11,440
order for the experiment to be a valid

1664
01:04:18,870 --> 01:04:16,069
now as michelle points out he had just

1665
01:04:21,109 --> 01:04:18,880
asked for a ufo demonstration

1666
01:04:22,549 --> 01:04:21,119
he says quote owens had given me no time

1667
01:04:24,549 --> 01:04:22,559
to design a properly controlled

1668
01:04:26,549 --> 01:04:24,559
experiment when i asked the psychic to

1669
01:04:28,630 --> 01:04:26,559
defer the test until i had more time to

1670
01:04:30,549 --> 01:04:28,640
work out an experimental design he

1671
01:04:32,789 --> 01:04:30,559
responded that once he had set his pk

1672
01:04:35,589 --> 01:04:32,799
forces in motion nothing could be done

1673
01:04:36,390 --> 01:04:35,599
to abort their manifestation it seemed

1674
01:04:38,309 --> 01:04:36,400
then

1675
01:04:40,470 --> 01:04:38,319
that i had to play the game by owens's

1676
01:04:41,430 --> 01:04:40,480
rules or not at all

1677
01:04:43,510 --> 01:04:41,440
and

1678
01:04:45,829 --> 01:04:43,520
that is that's the end of the quote

1679
01:04:48,150 --> 01:04:45,839
quotation and that is

1680
01:04:51,109 --> 01:04:48,160
here's the thing this is a a long

1681
01:04:53,589 --> 01:04:51,119
involved book that i found very useful

1682
01:04:55,270 --> 01:04:53,599
especially about understanding owens's

1683
01:04:56,950 --> 01:04:55,280
early life and i don't think we have

1684
01:04:58,470 --> 01:04:56,960
time to get into the whole book here but

1685
01:05:01,829 --> 01:04:58,480
there are some great things

1686
01:05:04,150 --> 01:05:01,839
that i urge you to check out um

1687
01:05:06,470 --> 01:05:04,160
if you read the book and uh or or

1688
01:05:09,029 --> 01:05:06,480
there's some or some youtube videos with

1689
01:05:10,950 --> 01:05:09,039
mish love talking about owens that i i

1690
01:05:14,069 --> 01:05:10,960
think would be useful that i'm going to

1691
01:05:17,589 --> 01:05:14,079
link to his youtube show new thinking

1692
01:05:19,829 --> 01:05:17,599
aloud is uh is always very insightful

1693
01:05:21,990 --> 01:05:19,839
and if you listen to this show there are

1694
01:05:24,230 --> 01:05:22,000
doubtless guests that he's interviewed

1695
01:05:26,470 --> 01:05:24,240
that you will find interesting but one

1696
01:05:27,589 --> 01:05:26,480
thing that that becomes very clear is as

1697
01:05:29,349 --> 01:05:27,599
owens

1698
01:05:33,670 --> 01:05:29,359
continued on towards the end of his life

1699
01:05:36,870 --> 01:05:33,680
in 1987 he seems to become more

1700
01:05:39,829 --> 01:05:36,880
angry more driven more vindictive in

1701
01:05:41,430 --> 01:05:39,839
using his powers and one of the sort of

1702
01:05:43,829 --> 01:05:41,440
vindictive but

1703
01:05:46,789 --> 01:05:43,839
i don't want to say um

1704
01:05:48,870 --> 01:05:46,799
benign things he does is he uses his

1705
01:05:52,309 --> 01:05:48,880
influence or claims to use his influence

1706
01:05:55,270 --> 01:05:52,319
to um punish sports teams who don't pay

1707
01:05:56,069 --> 01:05:55,280
him money in order for him to you know

1708
01:05:58,150 --> 01:05:56,079
hurt

1709
01:06:00,549 --> 01:05:58,160
their opponents so you know hire me as

1710
01:06:04,069 --> 01:06:00,559
your i don't know psychic

1711
01:06:06,950 --> 01:06:04,079
goon or something or else i will hobble

1712
01:06:08,789 --> 01:06:06,960
your team and so it's stuff like that

1713
01:06:11,270 --> 01:06:08,799
it's it's really interesting like i said

1714
01:06:14,950 --> 01:06:11,280
it's a little much to get into here but

1715
01:06:16,789 --> 01:06:14,960
regardless of the ufo or flying saucer

1716
01:06:19,029 --> 01:06:16,799
connection to all this regardless of his

1717
01:06:22,390 --> 01:06:19,039
claims about the sis

1718
01:06:24,549 --> 01:06:22,400
one thing that is very clear in reading

1719
01:06:26,710 --> 01:06:24,559
owens's accounts and and the newspaper

1720
01:06:29,589 --> 01:06:26,720
accounts of what happened after he made

1721
01:06:31,109 --> 01:06:29,599
his documented predictions and reading

1722
01:06:33,910 --> 01:06:31,119
what

1723
01:06:35,910 --> 01:06:33,920
experienced scientific researchers in

1724
01:06:37,589 --> 01:06:35,920
psychic phenomena have to say about

1725
01:06:38,870 --> 01:06:37,599
working with them

1726
01:06:40,789 --> 01:06:38,880
it seems like this is one of those

1727
01:06:42,630 --> 01:06:40,799
contact situations where regardless of

1728
01:06:44,150 --> 01:06:42,640
the alien or extraterrestrial nature of

1729
01:06:46,789 --> 01:06:44,160
whatever happened

1730
01:06:49,510 --> 01:06:46,799
something might have happened i'm

1731
01:06:50,630 --> 01:06:49,520
i'm not saying yes or no definitively

1732
01:06:51,829 --> 01:06:50,640
either way

1733
01:06:53,270 --> 01:06:51,839
but

1734
01:06:55,510 --> 01:06:53,280
you know sometimes

1735
01:06:57,349 --> 01:06:55,520
i wonder what the limit to coincidence

1736
01:07:00,710 --> 01:06:57,359
is with some of these things

1737
01:07:03,670 --> 01:07:00,720
i urge you to check out um mishlov's

1738
01:07:05,109 --> 01:07:03,680
book it's very interesting oh oh

1739
01:07:07,349 --> 01:07:05,119
speaking of books one thing i didn't

1740
01:07:08,950 --> 01:07:07,359
mention just before we close here is the

1741
01:07:11,670 --> 01:07:08,960
the stuff about the blackout and the

1742
01:07:13,190 --> 01:07:11,680
1967 new york flying saucer convention

1743
01:07:16,470 --> 01:07:13,200
or ufo convention

1744
01:07:18,950 --> 01:07:16,480
i was really hoping that mosley would

1745
01:07:21,910 --> 01:07:18,960
have talked about this in his uh memoir

1746
01:07:23,190 --> 01:07:21,920
shockingly close to the truth but um i

1747
01:07:24,470 --> 01:07:23,200
don't think he did there's there's a

1748
01:07:27,029 --> 01:07:24,480
whole i think there's a whole chapter

1749
01:07:29,349 --> 01:07:27,039
about the 1967 convention or at least a

1750
01:07:30,870 --> 01:07:29,359
section of a chapter about it and he

1751
01:07:33,430 --> 01:07:30,880
doesn't talk about

1752
01:07:36,069 --> 01:07:33,440
ted owens and the blackout threat at

1753
01:07:37,910 --> 01:07:36,079
least that i could remember seeing when

1754
01:07:40,549 --> 01:07:37,920
i looked at it again i was kind of

1755
01:07:43,589 --> 01:07:40,559
hoping to get to get his viewpoint there

1756
01:07:45,270 --> 01:07:43,599
in any case ted owens's case is

1757
01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:45,280
fascinating and

1758
01:07:49,910 --> 01:07:47,280
i i kind of wish there had been more of

1759
01:07:52,230 --> 01:07:49,920
the contact e stuff and less of the

1760
01:07:56,470 --> 01:07:52,240
psychic predictions but

1761
01:07:59,109 --> 01:07:56,480
it's a rare case where the contact-y

1762
01:08:02,950 --> 01:07:59,119
aspect and the contact-d message takes

1763
01:08:05,349 --> 01:08:02,960
an absolute backseat to a much more

1764
01:08:07,770 --> 01:08:05,359
interesting fascinating and truly

1765
01:08:12,230 --> 01:08:07,780
mysterious story

1766
01:08:15,510 --> 01:08:14,150
thanks for listening remember to send in

1767
01:08:17,669 --> 01:08:15,520
your questions and comments via the

1768
01:08:19,910 --> 01:08:17,679
usual social media or email channels and

1769
01:08:21,910 --> 01:08:19,920
we will try to address it on the saucer

1770
01:08:23,269 --> 01:08:21,920
after life segment next week

1771
01:08:25,349 --> 01:08:23,279
our associate producer is simpson

1772
01:08:27,990 --> 01:08:25,359
jahannove iii and the saucer life is a

1773
01:08:30,550 --> 01:08:28,000
production of chiso media llc chiso

1774
01:08:32,870 --> 01:08:30,560
media our heart is with the people till

1775
01:08:36,590 --> 01:08:32,880
next time keep watching the skies